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- From: "Martin Steigerwald" <steigerw@stud.uni-frankfurt.de>
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications,comp.sys.amiga.misc
- Subject: the wordworth5 story :-(((
- Date: Thu, 04 Apr 1996 00:39:54 +0100
- Organization: J. W. Goethe-Universitaet Frankfurt/Main
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- Hi!
-
- (This text will be forwared to german Wordworth support Christian
- Callagher and digita support as well...)
-
- I finally got my copy of WW5 (german version) on 3rd april of 1996... I am
- very disappointed, not only that it took longer than said... but because
- at least two *major* bugs/disadvantages of WW3.1 are still there in WW5
- although I clearly reported them more than one time...
-
- First of all... WW5 is awfully, ugly, crazily slow... I have it here on a
- A4000/EC030882/25MHz/2+16MB Ram, Fastlane, 1.5 (hmm actually 1 GB cause a
- hd broke down) GB SCSI HD, and a CyberVision 2MB...
-
- actually not an evily slow configuration but I have a text here that just
- takes 4 minutes and 50 seconds to load from the RAM-disc!!!!!!
-
- It has 57 pages or so and is about 200KB as file. I have it here, so
- anybody who wants to reproduce this behaviour contact email me.
-
- But that is not all... moving an gfx object (actually a vector drawing,
- some line some texts clued together to one object..) on page 45 requires
- 2:54 on the first try and 2:57 on the second minutes to be complete.. I
- moved it just a few centimetres... each time WW turned the mouse into busy
- state for ages, moved the object and (this buggy behaviour is new to me)
- went to page 1 although I didnt tell WW to do so...
-
- Saving the text does only need 8 seconds to RAM: and 16 seconds to an Ami
- File Safe harddisc partition. IMHO loading and reformatting the text
- shouldnt need more time... on a 030...
-
- My impression is just that the text formatting code in WW5 (I guess it is
- lame textformatting that slows loading of the document down...) is slowier
- than in those shiny big PC wordprocessors such as winword and such...
-
- I had this behaviour in WW3.1 already... and reported it more than one
- time... and now I must see that nothing... just simple nothing has changed
- although the ads are telling that WW5 got faster... (the same the ads for
- WW3.1 told, and also there it was not true for text formatting...)
-
- The second thing is a bug which I showed Christian Callagher at the Amiga
- Show in Cologne, autumn 95, directly on the WW5 alpha he presented to the
- customers... it is like this...
-
- texttext text and even more text
- +----------------------------------------------------------------+
- | graphic object, e.g. just a simple box |
- | that is as wide as the page is |
- +----------------------------------------------------------------+
- textextexttext...
-
- Now switch text floating on... Normally you would guess... WW5 should
- place some text above the gfx object, and the rest of the text below the
- gfx object, since there is simply no space on the both sides... But no WW5
- either put the text directly under the object or right beside it in
-
- +----------------------------------------------------------------+t-
- | graphic object, e.g. just a simple box |h-
- | that is as wide as the page is |i-
- +----------------------------------------------------------------+s
-
- stupid way... I have an example text here which is about 4kb in file and I
- think could easily be packed into 4kb of uuencoded data... so if there are
- enough that want to the this unimplemented feature, just ask, and I will
- post it here (or email it to you, if there are not enough interested
- ppl...)
-
- conclusion of all this:
-
- - more than the half of what I told the german support of WW5 got simply
- be ignored...
-
- consequences:
-
- - I will now directly contact digita... for all this and write to the
- public...
-
- But to be not only that flamy all the way around... thanks for the
- footnotes (I have a written promise that there should have been there in
- AmiWrite 2 alias WW3 already;-) and the styles which are really somewhat
- handy... good work!
-
- A few other remarks:
-
- - ww seems to try to close the workbench screens also if it is not told to
- do so... this I guess cause CXHandler closes all reachable commodity
- windows and toolmanager 2.1a with screennotify support closes its
- docks..
- this behaviour of ww5 should be abandoned
-
- - ww is awfully slow in text display _even_ on a cybervision... it also
- requires chipmem for rendering which I could see, cause I couldnt patch
- ww5 to only use fastram using MasterControlProgram...
- I just guess that the font engine of ww5 uses chipram and the normal
- amiga blitting even on gfx cards...
- However thats just a guess... whatever it is... digitas font engine
- seems to be way slowier than te AmigaOS3.1┤s one..
-
- - bullet points and automatich identing use the first or the forthcoming
- default tabulators. Why dont use the first user tabulator if applicable.
- Now I had to set default tabs to every 0.4cm cause 1cm is just to much
- space between te bullet point and the following text...
-
- So, that is all for now folks... comments are welcome... flames >nil:
-
- So, and just dont get me wrong... I understand difficulties in developing
- software for the amiga especially in the last times... but the first two
- things (text formatting speed, and text floating bug) are just things that
- should have been already be fixed in WW5...
-
- I expect a cost free update that is
-
- 1, faster
- 2. doesnt contain the text floating bug...
-
- I paid 100DM for my update to WW5, all what I got is new features that is
- the good side... but also _two_ _old_ _well known_ problems that were
- there in WW3.1 already... and this is IMHO inacceptable.
-
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-
- Einstein said once: Never stop asking why!
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